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Sixth Finger's avatar

Another thought-provoking discussion exploring the most taboo topic around: HBD. Although, I firmly believe that legitimate science will eventually prevail, it's going to take a loooong time - at least a generation or two, I'm afraid, to begin to turn the tide. The woke Ministries of Truth (e.g., the NIH in the US, prestigious scientific journals like Nature) and their lay mouthpieces like Wikipedia have HBD centered in their crosshairs and are working overtime to put the kibosh on research in this area. So far they've been wildly successful in restricting access to genetic databases, stigmatizing and cancelling scholars like Noah Carl, Bo Weingard, and Jonathan Anomaly who have been purged from the academy (with Nathan Cofnas likely next). As a result of this kind of systemic persecution, there is no question that the average college graduate today is far more clueless with regard to HBD-related matters than their counterparts from a few decades ago. We've got a lot of work ahead before we can assign the Woke ideology to the dustbin of history.

Regarding the future of the West, I've come to believe that the top priority for conservatives should be to push the institution of marriage as hard as they can. Not just because we need more children, but because married men and women become better citizens and better people. Young unmarried men are often involved in crime and other socially destructive behavior, while many young unmarried women are easily drawn to wokism and other pathological social movements. Bottom line: the more marriage, the stronger and saner the society.

Finally, I agree with your guest that Greg Cochran would be an interesting interviewee to pursue... I've only heard him speak twice as I recall, and he was worth listening to (despite seeming a bit cantankerous at times).

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gregvp's avatar

Great discussion, ranging over many of the topics that I am now interested in. Thanks, Alex! Your story of living in London and the enlightenment (by firelight!) you received there was interesting too.

Thanks also to JayMan. I have more reading to do!

When you were discussing assortative mating, and again towards the end, I hoped that you would examine Celeste Davis's "Male Tipping Point" thesis, that young men abandon activities in which they compete with women (for status reasons), the likely next example being liberal arts college engagement and credentials. If it happens, it would seem likely to cause big upheavals in mating and related social activities, and in the working world.

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Shade of Achilles's avatar

I'd never heard of this 'male tipping point' idea, but the way you describe it makes it seem similar to the way I think about the fall-off in marriage/birth rates among 'EHC' types. These people have little to do with members of the opposite sex who are anything other than fellow office workers and, because the sexes are put in the bizarre position of being in competition with each other, the desire for coupling is suppressed. The problem is lack of sexual differentiation.

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gregvp's avatar

Yes, the next generation (30 years) may see a great sorting out. Against the best efforts of a certain type of woman who is determined that boys and men shall have no spaces of their own.

Not my problem, but I hope I live long enough to see where it goes.

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The Calipers's avatar

I love the name Alex put to the “my college roommate effect”. Selective immigration + selective school admissions = extreme selection bias in the type of “diversity” that highly educated people will encounter.

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