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Klaartje Baas's avatar

Great piece.

There’s some meme I’ve seen many times on X where Mr. Rational Man says “men are taller than women on average” and Miss Dumb-Dumb Woman replies “but [that’s not true because] I’m tall” or something like that.

Many here in the comments are clearly are not comprehending what you’re saying, and the way they think could be captured in another meme: Normal Woman states a true fact that “I’m 5’11’’” and Mr. 5’10’’ Red Pill Man says to the tall woman immediately in front of him “that’s not true because men are taller on average, so I am taller than you.” Well, not as catchy but…

More concisely, they are so focused on the average (a “first-order moment” for you stats-letes), the fixation on mean differences has led to them very nearly denying the existence of any variance (a “second-order moment”). @Helen Roy has used the term “flattened” which I understood to mean un-nuanced thinking like this. So apt.

Alongside all of this, there’s a lot of stolen valor-lite woven in. For instance, these men will say that the most brutal 3% of occupations are 90% male. Therefore he, a man who sells insurance for a living, is actually building civilization. Just all really flawed thinking, in service of their egos.

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Steven Kwiatkowski's avatar

"The way forward... is to hold two thoughts simultaneously: patterns exist at the population level, but individuals exist in glorious variation."

This is and should be so painfully obvious to everyone with an ounce of sense, and yet the need to say it illustrates that, sadly, lots of people lack an ounce of sense. I think the social retardation (and I mean that term in its original intent, as "having been slowed") of the younger generations due to time spent online, and due to their coddling, as Haidt put it, is probably the most pressing factor as to why young people today can't figure out these simple truths. Young men in particular just have no experience with women at all, and so they treat them like another species.

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